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David Truesdale on the Nebulas

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  • Started 6 years ago by Gordon Van Gelder
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  1. Gordon Van Gelder
    Editor/Publisher

    Here's a link to the latest column:

    http://sfsite.com/fsf/2008/dt0803.htm

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. ScottDalrymple
    Member

    Very interesting column. As a new member of SFWA, I noticed immediately that there seemed to be a good deal of Nebula cross-nomination, i.e. you-nominate-me-and-I'll-nominate-you. I was surprised and dismayed by this; I'd always viewed the Nebulas as the most prestigious awards, since they are given by pros. (I hadn't been that disillusioned since I learned that IRON CHEF'S Chairman Kaga was an actor, and hadn't really spent his fortune on Kitchen Stadium. That hurt lasted for weeks.)

    I don't agree with Mr. Truesdale that in order to be a serious pro (or even fan) you must read all of the original anthologies, etc. published in a given year. I appreciate his opinion; I just don't share it. I'd be willing to trust a more powerful SFWA jury of these "super readers" to make award decisions, though.

    Scott

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. Anonymous

    "I don't agree with Mr. Truesdale that in order to be a serious pro (or even fan) you must read all of the original anthologies, etc. published in a given year."

    Hi, Scott,

    I didn't mean to say that all of the original anthologies *must* be read (although this would be the ideal). I was just illustrating that there were quite a lot of very good ones that weren't reflected on the Nebula Preliminary Ballot, which overlooked the vast majority of them entirely.

    Thanks for reading the column and taking the time to comment.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. ScottDalrymple
    Member

    Fair enough-- it's hard to argue that. I appreciate the hard work you put in, without a doubt. And I'll definitely be reading some of your suggestions.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Gordon Van Gelder
    Editor/Publisher

    Here's the final ballot:

    The 2007 Nebula Awards Final Ballot
    Nebula Deadlines
    April 25 - 27, 2007: Nebula Awards Weekend, Austin, TX

    Novels
    Odyssey - McDevitt, Jack (Ace, Nov06)
    The Accidental Time Machine - Haldeman, Joe (Ace, Aug07)
    The Yiddish Policemen's Union - Chabon, Michael (HarperCollins, May07)
    The New Moon's Arms - Hopkinson, Nalo (Warner Books, Feb07)
    Ragamuffin - Buckell, Tobias (Tor, Jun07)

    Novellas
    Kiosk - Sterling, Bruce (F&SF, Jan07)
    Memorare - Wolfe, Gene (F&SF, Apr07)
    Awakening - Berman, Judith (Black Gate 10, Spr07)
    Stars Seen Through Stone - Shepard, Lucius (F&SF, Jul07)
    The Helper and His Hero - Hughes, Matt (F&SF, Feb07 & Mar07)
    Fountain of Age - Kress, Nancy (Asimov's, Jul07)

    Novelettes
    The Fiddler of Bayou Teche - Sherman, Delia (Coyote Road, Trickster Tales,
    Ellen Datlow and Terri Windling, Ed., Viking Juvenile, Jul07)
    Pol Pot's Beautiful Daughter - Ryman, Geoff (F&SF, Nov06)
    The Evolution of Trickster Stories Among the Dogs Of North Park After the Change
    - Johnson, Kij (Coyote Road, Trickster Tales, Ellen Datlow and Terri Windling,
    Ed., Viking Juvenile, Jul07)
    Safeguard - Kress, Nancy (Asimov's, Jan07)
    The Children's Crusade - Bailey, Robin Wayne (Heroes in Training, Martin H.
    Greenberg and Jim C. Hines, Ed., DAW, Sep07)
    The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate - Chiang, Ted (F&SF, Sep07)
    Child, Maiden, Mother, Crone - Bramlett, Terry (Jim Baen's Universe 7, June
    2007)

    Short Stories
    Unique Chicken Goes In Reverse - Duncan, Andy (Eclipse 1: New Science Fiction
    And Fantasy, Jonathan Strahan, Ed., Night Shade Books, Oct07)
    Titanium Mike Saves the Day - Levine, David D. (F&SF, Apr07)
    Captive Girl - Pelland, Jennifer (Helix: A Speculative Fiction Quarterly, WS
    & LWE, Ed., Oct06 (Fall06 issue -- #2))
    Always - Fowler, Karen Joy (Asimov's, May07 (Apr/May07 issue))
    Pride - Turzillo, Mary (Fast Forward 1, Pyr, February 2007)
    The Story of Love - Nazarian, Vera (Salt of the Air, Prime Books, Sep06)

    Scripts
    Children of Men - Cuaron, Alfonso & Sexton, Timothy J. and Arata, David and
    Fergus, Mark & Ostby, Hawk (Universal Studios, Dec06)
    The Prestige - Nolan, Christopher and Nolan, Jonathon (Newmarket Films, Oct06
    (Oct 20, 2006 -- based on the novel by Christopher Priest))
    Pan's Labyrinth - del Toro, Guillermo (Time/Warner, Jan07)
    V for Vendetta - Wachowski, Larry & Wachowski, Andy (Warner Films, Mar06 (released
    3/17/2006 -- Written by the Wachowski Brothers, based on the graphic novel illustrated
    by David Lloyd and published by Vertigo/DC Comics))
    World Enough and Time - Zicree, Marc Scott and Reeves, Michael (Star Trek:
    New Voyages, http://www.startreknewvoyages.com, Aug07 (Aired 8/23/07))
    Blink - Moffat, Steven (Doctor Who, BBC/The Sci-Fi Channel, Sep07 (Aired on
    SciFi Channel 14Sep07))

    Andre Norton Award
    The True Meaning of Smek Day - Rex, Adam (Hyperion, Oct07)
    The Lion Hunter - Wein, Elizabeth (Viking Juvenile, Jun07 (The Mark of Solomon,
    Book 1))
    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Rowling, J. K. (Scholastic Press, Jul07)
    The Shadow Speaker - Okorafor-Mbachu, Nnedi (Jump At The Sun, Sep07)
    Into the Wild - Durst, Sarah Beth (Penguin Razorbill, Jun07)
    Vintage: A Ghost Story - Berman, Steve (Haworth Positronic Press, Mar07)
    Flora Segunda: Being the Magickal Mishaps of a Girl of Spirit, Her Glass-Gazing
    Sidekick, Two Ominous Butlers (One Blue), a House with Eleven Thousand Rooms,
    and a Red Dog - Wilce, Ysabeau S. (Harcourt, Jan07)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. Gordon Van Gelder
    Editor/Publisher

    John Klima blogged about this column here:
    http://evzine.blogspot.com/2008/02/dave-truesdale-anthology-columns.html

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. SHamm
    Member

    Klima seems to be under the impression that "now none of the stories from the overlooked anthologies can make the final ballot." Given the SFFWA's bizarre rolling-eligibility rules, I would assume that many, if not most, of the stories Dave plugged are still eligible and could conceivably turn up on NEXT year's ballot, no?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Anonymous

    Sam,

    Yes, they would still be eligible, depending on the exact publishing date. They have 12 months from time of publication to garner the necessary number of nominations to make the prelim ballot.

    The thing is (as I stated in my column) that many will most likely be forgotten in the flush of all the new stuff coming out in 2008, and the fifteen minutes for some of these collections and stories might therefore be over by next year. Of the 7 *preliminary* nominations on this year's ballot (out of 25 stories) from *2006* there were exactly Zero from original anthologies. If that holds true for next year, then Zero will again be the number of original anthologies from 2007 on the prelim ballot for 2008.

    Unless someone (like Charles Brown of LOCUS, myself, and Gardner) bitches about this state of affairs and hopefully wakes a few folks up. :-)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. SHamm
    Member

    Yeah, I'd assumed that you were hoping to alert Nebula voters to stories they might otherwise have missed. That's why Klima's remark puzzled me.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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