ARGENTUS LoCs

Issue Four

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Issue Four

Gregory Benford
Brad W. Foster
E.B. Frohvet
John Hertz
Rich Horton
Trinlay Khadro
Lisa Major
Joseph Major
Lloyd Penney
Robert Silverberg
Helen Spiral
Milt Stevens
Henry L. Welch

WAHF

Special Edition

Brad W. Foster
Frank Wu

Editorial insertions in blue italics Other contributor comments in red italics.


SS:

Good, diverse Argentus!

Jason Burnett evokes well the reading of sf early & often. My faves were Heinlein & Clarke (muchly influential in my own writing) and westerns.

Rich Horton's tour of the nearby stars is good, and I might direct him to the 3D map in my Across the Sea of Suns, book #2 in the eventual Galactic Center series, that I tried to do using the astronomy we knew about those stars. A main point for non-FTL starships is that stellar velocities are around 100 km/sec, and must be considered in navigating to them. I've worked on making sails go to the stars, using near-Sol fly-bys, and whew! is it hard to do in less than 1000 years...

John Carr's tribute to Piper is eloquent. Piper was one of the fine, eccentric sf authors who shaped the genre. A tragedy, his loss.

A treat to see Langford on worldcons! I read this just before the Boston Hugos. I'd been asked to give one away, but the Retro Hugos so contrasted with the pedestrian ballot that I gave way to my declining interest in the award. When I started writing sf the likes of Delany & LeGuin contended. The 1953 Retro ballot is studded with great works still in print. Want to estimate how many on this year's ballot will be in print in half a century? That, and the predictability of so many others--the fmz, fanwriter, editor Hugos etc--led me to instead have dinner with Marvin Minsky...a right decision, I think. I admit I'd kinda like to win one, someday, but it's sad to see it and the Nebula decline so far...

[Well, I was a bit surprised that Emerald City beat out the final year of Mimosa for fmz.  Any other Hugo surprises I had were at the Retro-Hugos.  I thought "Duck Dodgers in the 24½ Century" and Mission of Gravity would both win.]

Was called away...

Rich Lynch's lunches are fun. Having spent time trying to get the attention of DC folk, it's fun to see the frantic efforts of others. But few talks in DC seem about the search for truth, i.e., they're propaganda. Though not of the benign sort you describe so well at the Kennedy Space Center. With all the monuments we thrust up, I wonder--as I remarked in Deep Time, which is about the leaving of long term messages--if this country will be clogged with them in a few centuries...

Like the interviews

Gregory


Greetings Steven ~

Hey, a nice surprise to get the new issue of Argentus this past week. With the annual schedule, it's always just long enough between issues to come as a surprise each time. The cover turned out nicely, never sure how these more detail-heavy pieces will reproduce, and the clean text column of contributors filled in a nice balance.

Oh, and while speaking of art, I'm curious why you used the same piece from Taral twice in the same issue. I am going to assume, until told otherwise, that this was actually a clever design scheme that I am simply not picking up on. Run with that, if you like!

[Sure.  It was a clever design scheme.  Sort of like the da Silva Code.  Yeah, that's it.]

Jason Burnett's article was a fun idea, though I have to admit I'm always amazed by fannish articles where people look back at things in their past in such detail. I can barely recall what books I read a year ago, let alone which books that have all blended in my sieve-like memory were read which years. I'm sure glad someone out there can do that without having to go into personal research! I loved his new title for the "Thomas Covenant" series ("...the Whiner") as that is pretty much my own reaction when I read those. Like, get a grip, for crying out loud, Tommy boy! I was surprised that he wasn't fragged by the folks around him halfway through the first volume.

[The only way I can remember what I read last week is by checking out what reviews I've posted.]

Hate to do such a short loc after you've spent a year putting this fine issue together, and I have read and enjoyed everything here, just kind of short on time right now, and figured if I don't send out some sort of note at least letting you know I received the issue, it might vanish into that much-too big pile of "things to get to."

stay happy~

Brad


Dear Mr. Silver,

a LOC, of sorts

Congratulations on getting out Argentus #4. This now makes you eligible to be nominated for the Mimosa Award, pardon me, the "Best Fanzine" Hugo. With Mimosa definitely, and File 770 presumably, dropping off the ballot next year, there will be at least two spots opened up. In reviewing likely candidates, Argentus seems to have as good a chance as anyone.

Alas, not even WAHFed-again. This seems to be a persistent problem with (a) British fanzines, and (b) annuals. It can be a little disappointing, opening up a fanzine you're sure you LOCced, curious to see what you wrote months ago, and find nothing. Presumably it would be glurkish of me to note that the Steve Stiles art [p. 8] was previously used in my late fanzine [whichp. 32I assume fandom understands, is discontinued]. [Repeated art, pre-printed art.  Gotta watch that art.]

"Thirty Looks Back" : One is well aware of the problem of one's SF reading being dictated by the local library. Still, I would argue that Friday is far from being the best of Heinlein, nor would it be my recommendation for a 13-year-old. (I'd suggest either Tunnel in the Sky or Time for the Stars [I'll second those.] for that age group).  Terry Brooks appeared on the scene after my taste was developed, so his work never appealed to me. And I have never heard of Gene Lancour. I can't seriously argue with the rest of Mr. Burnett's favorites, though I could suggest others if he or his hypothetical 13-year-old wanted to expand their SF reading. [Recently, I took my thirteen-year-old nephew to a bookstore and bought him some reading material:  Card's Ender's Game, Moorcock's Hawkmoon, and Pratchett's Guards! Guards!.]

"See The Neighborhood" : I don't wish to seem fixated on Time for the Stars, [Why not, it's a good book.] but it describes a systematic attempt to explore our Immediate stellar neighborhood within about 50 light-years, including several of those Mr. Horton mentions. Alan Nourse's Rocket to Limbo is the strange tale of a NAFAL starship intended for the Alpha Centauri system, never found there after FTL is invented, and what happens after. Horton aptly mentions C.J. Cherryh's novels of Union/Alliance space; the Chanur Saga takes place in roughly the opposite galactic direction

"H. Beam Piper" : More than I knew about the enigmatic writer . Piper was a writer whom I did not encounter until fairly late in my reading career, and his output in book form was limited, so I never greatly connected with him. On reading this article, I feel a certain sympathy; yet Piper's determination to regard the world as he felt it ought to be, rather than as it is, is so creepily reminiscent of my father, that I backed away.

"Convention Diary" : I don't read Langford.  

"Thus We Refute": Mr. Lynch notes that Russian cosmonauts on the Space Station have a handgun in their survival gear. This does not seem unreasonable to me. The Soyuz has far less lateral control than the shuttles, and there have been cases of capsules coming down more than 100 miles from the intended landing area.  In central Siberia. You never know what (or who) might be lurking, prepared to treat something dropping from the sky as demonic—or as lunch. A weapon does not seem an unreasonable option under those conditions. "Malevolent" seems a judgment by someone who does not know much about handguns.

Lloyd Penney says Jesuits are "tolerant". We should just keep in mind that Jesuits answer to the same guy who said that all Protestant bodies are by definition "gravely deficient" (even those, as Anglicans and many Lutherans, within the Apostolic Succession). One of the many deficiencies of The Sparrow was that it seemed to view the Society of Jesus as completely autonomous, which is just not the case. As Brother Guy would tell you.

Maybe Pat Sayre McCoy should consult with Sheryl Birkhead on the question of how to get ink off a cat. Or perhaps the dry-cleaner. Alternately, Lady Vorhagen could just throw the cat away and get a new one.

E.B. Frohvet


Steven,

Thanks for AG4.  Glad to contribute-must be Larry Niven's first fanzine appearance in a while.  What happened to poor  Hanville Svetz's first name?

John Hertz 


Hi Steven,

I jumped the gun and read Argentus electronically. As ever, I'm thrilled to be in such great company.

I enjoyed Jason Burnett's article about 13 year old reading. I can't argue with his choices - they worked for him! If I had been 13 instead of 26 in 1986, I may well have loved Piers Anthony too! (That's the point of being 13, eh? And I did like Chthon, which I read at about age 15 I think.) I do think, however, that Jason has misattributed the "Golden Age of Science Fiction is 13" quote. I have long heard, from very authoritative sounding people, that the quote was actually originated by Peter Graham (possibly setting the age at 12 instead of 13, but still ...). Now mind you I didn't hear Mr. Graham say it myself.

Did you know that Charlie Walker worked for the same company I work for, when he was an astronaut? (McDonnell Douglas as was.) I never met Charlie, but I've known Robert Woods, who was slated to be our second astronaut, for the past 15 years or so, and we worked closely together for a couple of those years. (Robert was scheduled to fly the summer of 1986, but the Challenger disaster put paid to those plans!)

Rich Horton


Hi Steven!

Glad to see you've enjoyed my hand drawn art.  I've been playing around with using some of my photos as source material; the results you'll see enclosed.  Some I've printed large for the detail but you can resize them however you like.

Jason:  I haven't been able to make much progress on either The Silmarillion or Lost Tales either.  I tore through The Lord of the Rings as a grade schooler...I just may not have the 'magic' of the age I was when I encountered LOTR.  I didn't discover Elric till I was in college...and now the albino ferret in my household is "Elric" (aka "Sir Elric Poing") or "Elric of Milwaukee" :)  I was reading SF & fantasy at 13-but didn't find the ones of your list till I was much older.  THough I did read some of Asimov and Clarke (though these all would intrigue the 13 year old with fannish tendencies :)).

Nicholas:  Wow-this didn't seem to get the coverage the Spanish Royal Wedding had.  Maybe due to the recent deaths in the family.

Dave:  Fun con-report.

Rich:  Sounds like you are enjoying more than the "free lunch."  How do people find out about those kinds of events?  C-SPAN runs "Book TV," there isn't any kind of reliable guide to what's on when, but often it's the sort of event they caught you at.  I've somtimes enjoyed watching such author lectures on that station.  I would have enjoyed the Buzz Aldrin one-but of course, there's no guide.  (Neither the online guide (via cable T.V.) not the cable book give me any idea what the author or book du jour will be till I turn it on).  Salmon in a "free food" event?  Wow!  I'd go to that!  Even if I didn't care about the topic.

Steven:  Wow cool trip.  recent dress code at memorialwellI think people aren't as concerned about what they wear in general any more.  In summer people tend to wear "beach clothes" everywhere...including church and this is probably more evident in place like California and/or Florida, etc.  The lass put her shirt on in the mock up of the shuttle because of the AC, she felt cold.

[Actually, there was no AC in the shuttle mockup, but it was "inside" so she probably thought it was cooler.  It was probably warmer since the mockup would act as a heat trap, but then again, it would also block out the sun so she couldn't work on her tan inside.]

"Real astronaut"?!  Geeze!  As if any of us are "keeping score."

Joe:  Pre-derby events:  "Run for the Rosé" is also an event at Milwaukee's Bastille Day events.  We visited Kentucky and Louisville when I was a kid.  We had fun, but I don't think I can recall many specifics of what we did:  Mammoth Cave was one of the big ones, though.

Pat:  Great fun-poor cat!

The fibromyalgia is a real pain and puts a serious crimp in my life...I've applied for both SSD & transit pass.  (I have days when the medication makes me too woozy to drive.  And days I'm too tired to drive safely & still need to get places.)

Take care,

Trinlay Khadro


Dear Steven,

I enjoyed Jason Burnett’s look back at his favorite SF books. I too loved the first books of the Pern series.
Concerning the Derby and Funny Cide, interested readers should look up the 1918 and 1924 Derbies. And in 1987 Arthur Hancock couldn’t even sell a yearling colt named Sunday Silence. The very first Derby winner was only supposed to be there to soften up the opposition for his more highly regarded stablemate.In 1976, Bold Forbes turned all of Puerto Rico into one big party.

I would also like to mention restaurants Lynn’s Paradise Café and the Imperial Palace Mongolian Buffet.And those in town to actually see the horses would want to consider a sidetrip to nearby Lexington where they can see such eminent Thoroughbreds as John Henry, Cigar and Da Hoss. One warning-Nobody has told John Henry he’s too old to be kicking out. Do not get within reach of either his hooves or his teeth. The Good Humor horse he isn’t.

And Lexington is also a wonderful place to visit, with the Lexington Horse Park and one of the greatest independent bookstores around (Joseph-Beth).  Of course, my in-laws are also there, which gives me a good reason to visit.

Again, thanks much for Argentus.
Sincerely,
Lisa Major 


Dear Steven

Jason Burnett made Eagle when he was thirteen!? Talk about fast-track.

Why was Dennis L. McKiernan' s Iron Tower trilogy published? You see, he wrote a sequel to The Lord of the Rings. The publishers made some comment about copyright and other such pettifogging things, and so he had to revise it to make it more generic.

I liked the I.C.E. Middle Earth Role-Playing Game, even though they did tend to invent too much. For example, I have seen people citing the Nazgul names and biographies they invented as canonical.

Older SF used to situate planets around stars that people knew about. But the stars people knew about were the brighter ones, the ones with their own names. Brighter stars are not always habitable ones. Thus, for example, the heroic protagonist of Dorsai was Protector of Procyon. Procyon (Alpha Canis Minoris A) is an F5 giant star with a white dwarf companion star (Alpha Canis Minoris B) at 11.4 light-years distance from Sol, and so unlikely to have been around long enough to have planets habitable without substantial investment. 

The Fallen Astronauts memorialdoes that include the Soviet/Russian ones ? Or did they not want to have to fight the Judica-Cordeliga brothers? (Two Italian radio hams who seem to have been the only people who heard a number of Soviet cosmonauts die in space, on flights that don't correspond with any Soviet rocket launches.)

[Just the Americans.  The complete list on the memorial includes (in alphabetical order:  Michael Adams, Michael Anderson, Charlie Bassett, David Brown, Manly Carter, Roger Chaffee, Kalpana Chawla, Laurel Clark, Theodore Freeman, Gus Grissom, Rick Husband, Gregory Jarvis, Robert Lawrence, Christa McAuliffe, Willie McCool, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Ilan Ramon, Judy Resnik, Dick Scobee, Elliott See, Michael Smith, Ed White, Clifton Williams]

Joseph T. Major


Steven

Thank you for issue 4 of Argentus. It’s a little late at night, so I will see what I can do about getting this loc out in a timely fashion. Either that, or I’ll fudge the date above. You can guess what will happen…on with the loc!

What was I reading when I was 13? I loved the novels I could find, but I was mostly reading as many anthologies as I could, especially Donald Wollheim’s Best Of 19XX series that DAW books published, and the Gold anthologies from the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. The short stories were my favorites, and I loved these quick trips to the outer planets and other realities, with robots, brave spacemen, aliens galore and One Plucky Girl. They also gave me an insight into the fun you could have in this mysterious inner sanctum called fandom…these anthologies would mention Worldcon, Hugos, Terry Carr, the best of the authors, H.L. Gold, John W. Campbell, the great editors and publishers. These books told me there was a community behind all these wonderful stories, and gave me the impetus to seek it out and see what it was all about. Just for the record, Jason, when I was 13, it was 1972. I was at the height of my own sensawunda, and stories taking me to elsewhere and otherwhen matched my fascination with the community that kept SF&F going, supported and in many ways, advertised and marketed. Now that I am a jaded 45, I must wonder if there are any 13-year-olds out there yearning to find their own sensawunda…Ghod, I hope so.

Very interesting article on the life of H. Beam Piper. I did not know that he had committed suicide, and he did so, even knowing he had an appreciative audience. Perhaps his frustrations came from aspiring to a high career, but not being able to rise to it. As the article goes, the H. stands for Henry, and later, Herbert. Which one is correct?

I have read some of Mike Glyer’s Torcon diary, which has an uncharacteristic gloss to it. It must be because Mike was a GoH at Torcon, and no one likes to be ungracious to one’s host. Even with the added burden of rockets, that’s never stopped Dave Langford. The L.A. parties wanted to keep their parties alcohol-free, hoping that the lack of same would be overlooked by the imagination of their bidding themes and wondrous room of interesting activities, largely furnished by IKEA, by the way… Yes, Dave, the local hockey team is indeed called the Maple Leafs, no matter what your language teacher may have taught you. Those pyramids you spotted were right beside the national headquarters building for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, or the CBC, not affectionately known at the Ceeb. The sitting statue is a tribute to internationally known concert pianist Glenn Gould. Lots of people often sit beside Gould on the bench.

Yvonne was in Washington recently, for the NASA Centennial Challenges Conference, where she was a representative for the X Prize Foundation and her employer, Optech. She will be spending the early part of October in Vancouver at the International Astronautics Congress. Her treatment at the hands of the Torcon committee has sent her back to her original true loves, astronomy and space. She’d like nothing better than to explore the astronautical areas of Florida.

The Sawyer book you’re working on…is that Iterations? Joseph Major asks about the NeoFan’s Manifesto…I can’t remember if that was published in an earlier edition of Argentus, or another fanzine, but it is something that should be reprinted from time to time as a gentle reminder. My own loc…I stopped volunteering with VoicePrint to devote more time to the job hunt (I start a fresh job on Monday with Stronco, a large convention services company. Right up my alley.)

[The Sawyer book isn't Iterations, it is a new collection called Relativity. It contains 8 stories, 4 speeches, all twelve "On Writing" essays, several articles, a crossword puzzle and a critical essay about Rob.  I didn't publish the NeoFan's Manifesto, perhaps I'll do a  reprint of it in the future.]

I wish I could get out to a Windycon some time. Always good times, I keep hearing, but I’d like to know about it first-hand! (Just to let you know…because of my extended unemployment, Yvonne and I sold our memberships to Boston. Also, because of rising costs, we’ve decided to swear off Worldcons, and even running conventions. The Torcon senior committee took a large toll on us, and we are not eager to come even close to living through that again.)

[We'd love to see you at a Windycon.]

Well, I got the whole loc done in one evening. Wonders in my own lifetime. Will a new MidFanZine see the light of day soon? Sure hope so. Take care, and see you again sometime.

[Anne Murphy, the editor of MidFanZine is putting the finishing touches on a new issue even as I type.]

Lloyd Penney


Steven:

I see that now James Gunn is being given credit for saying, "The Golden Age of science fiction is 13." Wrong. And whoever thinks I claimed credit for it is wrong, too, because I know who did first say it, which was a fan from the Bay Area named Peter Graham, circa 1952. Terry Carr picked it up from him and made the phrase popular. 

Robert Silverberg

Thanks for the feedback on my article, and please forward Robert Silverberg my thanks for the correction.

Jason


Hi,

In his entertaining article "Thus We Refute Heinlein" Rich Lynch wrote:

"...the Russian cosmonauts on the International Space Station have a malevolent-looking hand gun up there in the Soyuz return capsule as part of their survival kit. (Read into that what you will.)"

An invitation which I can't ignore. I have the typical British assumption that all handguns are "malevolent-looking" but in this case I'd read something entirely innocent and practical into the handgun's presence in the cosmonaut's survival kit. In March 1965 the Russian Voskhod 2 space mission (during which Alexei Leonov became the first human spacewalker) suffered a failure in the returning capsule's automatic flight control system and the cosmonauts Alexei Leonov and Pavel Belyayev had to pilot the capsule manually to a safe landing. The capsule touched down in a remote area of forest outside the mission's planned landing zone and the two cosmonauts had to keep a hungry wolf pack at bay until the next day when help finally arrived. I imagine a handgun would be useful in similar circumstances if only because wild animals tend to avoid loud manmade noises,

Looking forward to Argentus 5,

Helen


Dear Steven,

Argentus #4 is another fine issue. You seem to be having very good success at getting written material. I know how difficult that can be given the general inertia of most fan writers. Why write today what you can put off until tomorrow? There's sure to be something mind numbing on television, and your sock drawer really needs sorting. Given all the good excuses in the universe, it's remarkable that any fanzines get published at all.

Jason K. Burnett's article on science fiction at thirteen brought back many memories of my misspent youth. I turned thirteen in November 1955. I was in eighth grade at the time. I had already been reading SF for several years, so I was already well on my way to being a pitiful wreck of a once healthy eight year old. However, something significant happened in November 1955. I experienced an eldritch new desire I had never experienced before. (No, it wasn't sex. I already knew about that eldritch desire.) Previously, I had been satisfied buying some SF magazines and paperbacks. I now wanted to buy them all. I had become a TEENAGE COMPLETIST! That phase lasted for about two years. After that, I started wanting to spend my money on dating girls rather than acquiring all the science fiction in the known universe. It would be a few years before I got back to trying to acquire all the science fiction in the known universe.

I enjoyed Rich Horton's article "See the Neighborhood." I fear my knowledge of astronomy is woefully out of date and getting further out of date by the month. In college, I took Astronomy 1 back in 1960. Most of what is known about astronomy today wasn't even dreamed of in 1960. I've read articles here and there over the intervening years but not enough to acquire any comprehensive knowledge. The Hubble telescope has discovered all sorts of goshwow stuff out there, and I'm sure learning about it would really tweak my sensawunda. One of these days, I really must get around to learning more about the subject.

Dave Langford attended a worldcon, and he doesn't even mention all of those fans gasping at the sight of him. After all, he is a living legend even aside from being the Hugo grabber who walks. However, from his Olympian perspective, he does notice how North American fans have fallen from the traditional ways. They've taken up healthy living. Bheer is seldom seen at fan parties and even a bowl of pretzels would reduce some fans to gibbering horror. There isn't much running around naked either.

In "Thus We Refute Heinlein," shows he has what it takes to be an outstanding journalist. He is able to slip at least two or three new assumptions in each question. This gives the speaker the opportunity to step in something in several different directions. From the journalist's point of view, who cares what a speaker steps in as long he steps in something. From a denunciation of Coca-Cola and McDonald's as promoting cultural homogenization, Rich [Lynch] introduces the assumption that the internet promotes cultural homogenization. Does it? The internet is useful for so many things that we all can use it for our own purposes whatever those purposes may be.

Milt Steven


Steven

Thanks for the latest Argentus. Not a whole lot to comment on except a general comment on retrospective pieces touched off by Jason Burnett's example. How does anyone possibly remember what they've read from 17 years earlier? I could probably recall a subset of what I'd read at 16 or 17 years of age, but certainly not 13 years of age. Perhaps it is just my lazy mind which refuses to recall most trivial details of my day-to-day life and thus saves my higher brain function for the big things, who can say

[I have no idea how he remembers.]

[JB responds:  The reason I can remember what I was reading that long ago is because I have been, for as long as I can remember, a voracious reader and re-reader of books. For some people, movies, TV shows, or songs are the touchstones of their memory. For me, it's books. I can look back at any phase in my life, and even if I can't remember all the books I read at that time, I can remember the ones that were most a part of my life at that time. Likewise, thinking of a book that I've read will bring back memories of a certain phase of my life. Some of the books in my article I'm quite certain that I read at thirteen exactly, and all the rest were (at worst) read within a year or two on either side of that date. At any rate, I'm absolutely positive that I had read them all by the time I went away to boarding school at age 15.]

Henry L. Welch


Greetings Steven~

Well, this is a minor, personal historical moment, the first publication of my artwork in an on-line only zine. Am I in the future yet?

That was an impressive list of fans and authors to be on the games shows, and looks like "Jeopardy" is something of a favorite... or possibly it's just been around so long, it's had more people taking shots at getting on. And it was interesting to find, let's see... five people are on this list twice. Kind of feel like I want to be a school teacher assigning a paper to someone like Janice Gelb, asking her to "compare and contrast" your experiences in the two shows.

[At the time of the deadline for the issue, Janice was facing several of her own (non-fannish) issues and was not able to participate.  If she finds the time to write up an article, I'd be more than happy to include it.]

In your own article, in the q&a list at the end, is this one: "Do you have to pay taxes on the prizes? Yes. Taxes are deducted from the cash prizes before the check is mailed. Before a prize is sent out, the recipient receives a bill for the tax on the prize. The bill must be paid before the prize is delivered."  So, okay, if they deduct the tax from the prize before mailing, what is the bill you have to pay before you get that reduced money? That is, if you win $100, and they take out 20% for your tax, so the check will be $80, what money do you have to pay to get your money? I think I must be reading that wrong, since I was told one of the first signs of a scam is you have to pay money to get your money....

[If you only win a non-cash prize (say a television set) rather than cash, you have to pay the taxes up front.  If you win a cash prize or a mixture of a cash prize and a non-cash prize, they deduct the tax from the cash portion, assuming it is enough.]

Enjoyed Perrianne's article on "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me...". one of my fave radio shows. I like the laid back fun of their quick quiz for the prize of a voice recording. Much more fun than the often cut-throat aspects of more recent game shows. (My sister once commented that she thought I'd do great on "survivor", and my first response was "Do you even KNOW me?" I hate the idea of that show so much, it seems to have set up the whole new wave of shows where you have to plot against others, lie, scheme etc in order to be a "winner". If the fabric of space & time should be rent in such a way I actually ended up on that, I'd probably be on the helicopter with the crew back to the hotel at the end of the first day, with a hearty "so long, suckers" to the rest of the contestants.

Hey, another first: the first full fanzine I've read on line! My eyes are kinda buggy and bleary now from staring at that screen so long, so probably won't do that again for a while, but I understand that the kids these days are real big on this "on-line" stuff, so guess I'll just have to get used to the slow death of paper. sigh.

[Sorry about the buggy and bleary eyes.  I just knew I wouldn't be able to put this issue out on paper due to the cost.  I've only been considering it for about two years or so.]

Brad W. Foster


Hey Steven

The issue looks cool, very cool - read through your article on being on Jeopardy! Very informative. Many questions I've had answered. Thanks.

[So read more, and loc more.]

Frank Wu


WAHF

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