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"The General Aim of These Science Fiction Writers . . . "

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  1. SHamm
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    ". . . is to frighten the people into a state of paralysis or psychological incompetence bordering on hysteria," according to this FBI file on notorious pinko subversive Ray Bradbury. Friendly witness Martin A. Berkeley noted that "individuals such as RAY BRADBURY are in a position to spread poison concerning political institutions in general and American institutions in particular," and that "communists have found fertile opportunities . . . for spreading distrust and lack of confidence in America institutions in the area of science fiction writing."

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. geoffhart1962
    Member

    You have to wonder whether the same FBI analysts who wrote this enthusiastically approved of "Fahrenheit 451", entirely missing the point.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Recalling fandom conducting imaginary battles with J.Edgar Hoover in print and sending it through the mail in the Swinging Sixties. The government just doesn't go for a lot of what was in fanzines. SHamm brings up how much governmental investigations have to do with the present wretched conditions of fandom.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...In what way , John , do you feel that fandom (Just SF fandom ?) today is in " wretched conditions " ?
    How so ???

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Well, I could say, look at yourself, jail, hospital, most of the talk lately has been about the condition everybody is in, physically and monetarily; next, the Hugos suggest a wretched condition, the fanzines often have little sf relevancy, this and that.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Yeah , well , myself as a person whose stated definition within " fandom of fantasy " is that of " a comics fan " , I've spent a lot of time on this nursing place's computer sorta nostalgising for 1970s comic fandom (& the more general sorta " Psychotronic "-ish fandom of the 80s/90s , too) that I - just , kind of , on the edges (Perhaps I categorize/judge myself too harshly , but ~ I never " got out that fanzine " , f'rinstance .) - participated in at the time - sort of " nostalgising " , partly?? in the sense that " nostalgia is often for things that the nostalgic person was only on the edge of " , say ??? Listening to Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons obscurities/album cuts that are even older than I , " pop culture era "-speaking (Not that I haven't always tended towards that ~ I guess it's alright .) , as I write this !!!!!!!!!!!
    It's a big maanns' world , all in the hands of a little giirrrll...Seemss like , only yesterday she kissed me...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. JohnWThiel
    Member

    I can dig that.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ..I recall reading of these " persecution fantasies " written as serials in Fanzines of the 50s.......

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Knowing this.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. Marian
    Member

    Following up on SHamm's quote https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/scientists-under-surveillance

    The investigations of various SF writers such as Asimov!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  11. JohnWThiel
    Member

    I like seeing this topic brought up again. It seems to me like science fiction is not at peace with the government.

    Posted 6 months ago #

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