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Leer-ics And Semi-Dystopias

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  • Started 1 year ago by BevanEvansMcdougie
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  1. BevanEvansMcdougie
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    I am proposing the phrase " leer-ics " for song lyrics to completely imaginary songs that appear within a story , SF or otherwise , prose , graphic...
    If song lyrics to a non-existent song are printed in a story , they will be referred to as " leer-ics " , the lyrics presented in that story .
    Why not ??? I'd like to invent a phrase .
    I'd like to get ID'd a story I remember from ASIMOV'S in the last decade , a story which involved a rock/grunge band from the Pacific Northwest (the " G " phrase was avoided but references to " Saint Kurt " made the derivation clear) who were being sent by the USIA/a similar group on a see-American-culture tour of the Middle East - In a semi-dystopian near future , when the pollution problem has Gotten Much Worse , although the normal world , as the idea of there still being rock bands and a USIA to sent them on tours has not been destroyed .
    This story itself had no leer-ics for the imaginary band .
    The problem with printing lyrics to non-existent songs , of course , is that song lyrics , with their general simplicity and repitition , look sort of stupid/inane on the printed page .
    Much of the time leer-ics in stories are parodies , or some sorta " reflecting the story/the characters " sort of thing , noit maybe literal what-could-be-a pop song lyrics .
    Semi-dystoias deserve exploration , too_Stories where , athe somewhat worse has happened but 20th/21st-Century civilization toddles on regardless , people are not all confined to distant farms while mutated wolves roam outside or hunting down/being hunted down by the survivors , life goes on regardless .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Marian
    Member

    I like your term semi-dystopia for unpleasant near future life where civilization continues. And this ties into the blog of Charles Stross. He writes about how Brexit means he has to rewrite a novel he had almost completed! He didn't see Brexit coming. http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2016/08/reality-is-broken-1.html#more

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. JohnWThiel
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    I'd like to say I remember your story, the one in Asimov's, but don't recall the author or title and it'd be an awful task to look it up. I could put a strain on it and dig it back up out of my unconscious mind, but that's a difficult matter, expecially because I forgot it because I didn't want to remember it. I believe it had a precursor and sequel.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. geoffhart1962
    Member

    Not fond of "leerics", I'm afraid, since the "leer" doesn't relate in any way to the subject of the word.

    How about "lyrfics" (= fictional lyrics)?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Eh , Geoff , that seems to me a bit too much in the tradition of planting " f "s in fan-oriented phrases .

    Plus , I like my own phrase !!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Mark Pontin
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    Your story description rather resembles Bruce Sterling's "We See Things Differently," except for the fact that that story appeared in ASIMOVS in 1989.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Thank you , Mark .
    However , given the story's references to " Kurt " (Cobain) , hardly someone whose name would've been dropped in SF magazines in Bush I's first term year (and the story rather , IIRC , revolving around the percentage of Middle Eastern Muslims who Hate Our Freedom , as Bush II put it) , it's unlikely - well , I'm being wiseass .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...I will practice thread conservation by adding this onto this existing thread , which discusses popular mucic , rather than starting a new one .
    Does this music make you think of outer space ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAUuiwA7yU
    Since that is the page under me signed into You Tube , maybe it won't work that way for youse/y'all , but it is a " Space Age Exotica Longe " LP I am paying now:
    " FANTASTICA ~ Music From Outer Space By RUSS GARCIA " . A GGRREAT! cover painting !!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps some you remember the late 1990s or so revival of interest in this " Space Age Bachelor Pad/Exotica " music of LP issues from the Ike and JFK eras ?
    For something with more rock'n'roll credentials , I'll mention the Blue Men's (Joe Meek) 's " I HEAR A NEW WORLD " .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. Mark Pontin
    Member

    BEM wrote: 'and the story rather , IIRC , revolving around the percentage of Middle Eastern Muslims who Hate Our Freedom as Bush II put it... it's unlikely'

    And yet, au contraire, Middle Eastern Muslims Hating Our Freedoms is _exactly_ what "We See Things Differently" is about. Hence, the title.

    Sterling wrote this story back when he was The Thing Itself when it came to writing real SF that actually looked at what the near future might be like.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. Mark Pontin
    Member

    Here's the beginning. I just found "We See Things Different" online ....

    This was the jahiliyah -- the land of ignorance. This was America. The Great Satan, the Arsenal of Imperialism, the Bankroller of Zionism, the Bastion of Neo-Colonialism. The home of Hollywood and blonde sluts in black nylon. The land of rocket-equipped F-15s that slashed across God's sky, in godless pride. The land of nuclear-powered global navies, with cannon that fired shells as large as cars.

    They have forgotten that they used to shoot us, shell us, insult us, and equip our enemies. They have no memory, the Americans, and no history. Wind sweeps through them, and the past vanishes. They are like dead leaves.

    I flew into Miami, on a winter afternoon. The jet banked over a tangle of empty highways, then a large dead section of the city -- a ghetto perhaps. In our final approach we passed a coal-burning power plant, reflected in the canal. For a moment I mistook it for a mosque, its tall smokestacks slender as minarets. A Mosque for the American Dynamo.

    I had trouble with my cameras at customs. The customs officer was a grimy-looking American, white with hair the color of clay. He squinted at my passport. "That's an awful lot of film, Mr. Cuttab," he said.

    "Qutb," I said, smiling. "Sayyid Qutb. Call me Charlie."

    http://www.revolutionsf.com/fiction/weseethings/01.html

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Mark Pontin
    Member

    And in case you didn't get Sterling's Sayyid Qutb reference --

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb

    No mention of K. Cobain. Bob Marley and Jimi Hendrix are brought up, though ....

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Thank you , Mark .
    I believe I just meant that a 1989 story would certainly have not mentioned Mister Cobain .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Thank you , Mark , that was a very good story !
    I read it a little too fast , perhaps , and I ave a hard time with reading " real " fiction on computer screens as well ~ Odd to see a story written when the Soviet Union was still a factor !...I remember hearing about (A bit removed from media then) the Berlin Wall's opening , thinking " Well . The way the whole world's been set up all of my life has changed . " .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. Mark Pontin
    Member

    Yeah. Reading 'real' fiction on computer screens ain't an ideal experience for me, either. Though much depends on formating of the text and screen size.

    On the other hand, about six years ago I got an early, cheapest-model paperwhite (e.g. non-backlit) Kindle. Its casing is now dulled, scratched and chipped like an old car that needs a paint-job bad. Nonetheless, the sucker just keeps working and slips in my pocket weightlessly when I go running or to the gym. Great item.

    So I think part of the (marginal) discomfort with reading fiction on computer screens may be the angle that they compel you to have your head at in relationship to that screen and the backlit, pixellated thing.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...Why , however , Mark (SPOILER) --- does the narrator wish to kill off the " neo-Bruce Springsteen populist would-be American leader " ?
    Because he will cause The Great Satan to regain her strength and walk proud & tall again and his side does not want that ?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. BevanEvansMcdougie
    Member

    ...I'll Bertha Bump Boogie oogie oogie this one back up just to get my total of posts to-day after I do my next one to an even fo- uh, to ask for information about that ASIMOV'S story about the grunge band in the Middle East and it's pre-/sequels. Anybody?

    Posted 5 months ago #

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