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Avengers: Infinity War

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  1. Marian
    Member

    I was real dubious about how good it would be, but at least one reviewer thinks it works https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/24/entertainment/avengers-infinity-war-review/index.html

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. Marian
    Member

    Cheat sheet for Avengers: Infinity War https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/04/entertainment/marvel-infinitywar-timeline/

    Incidentally, this is supposed to be the next to last Avengers movie.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. CWJ
    Member

    Saw it last night. It does the best it can for such an overstuffed movie. Not terrible, but see comment below. Despite an overall grim tone it manages some (mostly organic, though not infrequently overcooked) humor. There are a couple of unexpected cameos which were almost the highlights.

    If you care, see it before you hear spoilers.

    I tend to agree with A. O. Scott's review:

    "...this film, the 19th installment in a series, was never meant to be viewed or judged in isolation. In that respect it shouldn’t really be thought of as a movie at all..."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/movies/avengers-infinity-war-review.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmovies&action=click&contentCollection=movies&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=6&pgtype=sectionfront

    Posted 3 months ago #
  4. geoffhart1962
    Member

    Went yesterday with my son. As you might expect, it's an SFX extravaganza, with mostly good acting, lots of action, really good banter, and many funny moments mixed in with the serious stuff. But in the end, it simply doesn't work because of two things:

    ***SPOILERS FOLLOW***

    There's a really high body count on the side of the heroes. Which is fine, if there weren't already half a dozen well-advertised movies featuring them coming up in the next 2 years. "Logan" worked for me as a movie because (i) I've always liked the Wolverine character, and (ii) it looked like he's really dead and gone. If a character's going to die, it should mean something, otherwise where's the sting?

    The idiot plot thing, which is pretty much ubiquitous in mass-market Hollywood SF. So let's say you're Doctor Strange, and you're holding perhaps the most powerful of the infinity stones. Do you (a) use it against the Big Bad, or (b) hide it away and hope the aforementioned doesn't notice where you're hiding it? Of course the only possible answer is (a). Now say you're Thanos, and your nominal reason for slaughtering half the universe's population is because the ecosystems of their planets can't support such high populations. Do you (a) stick to your original plan once you have the infinity stones or (b), now that you're the most powerful being in a universe flooded with superheroes, and can literally snap your fingers and make anything happen that you wish, snap your fingers and create greenhouses and zero-emission power plants to feed everyone and power their iPads, while terraforming unused (i.e., free of life) and formerly unusable planets to create more living room? Again, the only possible answer is (a).

    Bonus third problem: I generally dislike ultimately powerful characters; if the character doesn't have to struggle, where's the fun in the story? The authors did try to motivate Thanos, stupid though the motive was, but failed completely in my eyes because there's no backstory, on screen, showing how he came to his decision. You can hae an absolute villain ring true if you give them a strong motivation for their behavior. Here, not so much... just a throwaway bit about losing his own world.

    Sheesh. I get why Hollywood doesn't hire the good writers -- they make the producers feel stupid. But really, guys, it's just about as easy to create a smart, logically consistent plot as it is to create a stupid plot. Up your game, already.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. Marian
    Member

    While I agree with your points, Geoff, here's a reminder that this movie Part One of a two parter with Avengers Part 4 coming out next year. It was always planned that way. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/04/24/avengers-infinity-war-review-marvel-embraces-its-identity-as-a-big-screen-tv-show/#5bc225c53351

    Posted 3 months ago #

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