Register or log in:

F&SF Forum » Other Topics

Area 51

(22 posts)
  • Started 2 months ago by Marian
  • Latest reply from JohnWThiel

  1. Marian
    Member

    It seems like something will happen September 20th near Area 51 so I thought it worth keeping track of. I posted the parody song on the SF jokes thread. Since then apparently Facebook took down the original post with its 2 Million followers but has now put it back up, maybe. And the man who started it all is trying to organize a festival in place of an invasion! He described it as a combination of Burning Man and a series of TED talks. Here's a writeup about facebook https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-says-viral-area-51-event-page-was-removed-mistake-ahead-music-arts-festival-1453030

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Well, I'd say they're having a high old time out at Area 51.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. Marian
    Member

    Not yet, John. Not until September 20th https://edm.com/news/storm-area-51-alienstock

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. Chris DeVito
    Member

    "...a combination of Burning Man and a series of TED talks..."

    Good grief -- is that meant to be a SELLING point?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  5. JohnWThiel
    Member

    This forum's moving too fast for me. Ga-yiii!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  6. Marian
    Member

    John, be aware that when you break the fourth wall, so to speak and comment on how slow the forum is, etc. you make it difficult to add comments. Luckily, it doesn't matter in this thread. I started it as a semi joke as I thought the entire situation of Area 51 worth a omment. I'll be really curious on September 19th if there's a convoy of thousands of vehicles or if there's dead silence out there. I thought Chris' remark was very funny and I will be surprised if anyone else says anything before 9/19/19. Unless of course there's some interesting breaking news.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  7. oblomov
    Member

    I was at a coffee shop when this mishegas was peaking and there was some guy going on about all the secrets housed at Area 51. An acquaintance I was with quite reasonably opined to the guy that there's not a chance Area 51 is anything besides a military base, because absolutely everyone knows about, and if the government actually has any alien stuff they probably keep it at Area 52 for which Area 51 acts as the perfect diversion. The Area 51 guy got a look on his face like someone took his toy out of his hand and stomped on it. Anyway I'm glad this meme didn't spiral any farther out of control because a mass of civilians storming a military installation with tongue firmly in cheek probably would get really bad really quick. Agreed with Chris though that the whole thing turning into some obnoxious Silicon Valley fiasco is perhaps equally dismal in its own way. But honestly this stuff turns over so quickly now in the public imagination that I doubt the planned party is even going to happen. An event organizer may have indeed spent money on it, but my bet is on no one showing up and the dude going broke.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Well, just four more days until the proposed time. I recall looking at the proposition through my event horizon, but not many events loom before it now.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. Marian
    Member

    This event (non-event?) just keeps getting nuttier! Now Matty Roberts (the kid who started it all) has moved the event to Las Vegas! That's right - Las Vegas. BudLight is sponsoring a free Alien themed party on September 19th They're selling a special, alien themed beer, in case you're wondering why. BudLight actually started party planning and then allowed Matty Roberts to join them. All that is good except I don't like the way the town of Rachel, next to Area 51 has been abandoned by him. They didn't ask for any of this. However, the owner of the only cafe in town has taken over. She's paying for security, etc and has lined up some local bands to play. While moving to Las Vegas will take the pressure off, we know some strange people will show up at Area 51 so having security and a party planned is probably the best idea. I hope for their sake, since they are victims here, that Rachel gets a few hundred visitors, enough to pay back their expenses. I kinda hope the Las Vegas party is a bust. https://time.com/5674550/storm-area-51-music-festival-alienstock-matty-roberts/

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. Greg
    Member

    I'm sure there are far stranger things to see in Las Vegas than outside Area 51.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  11. Ron
    Member

    The planned siege of Area 51 could have been a pretty good comedic science fiction story just a few years ago.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Well, it's happening tomorrow. I wonder if there'll be any news about it on that day.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Lot of stuff on the net today about Area 51, and some of the news says it's a big event.

    Posted 4 weeks ago #
  14. oblomov
    Member

    Looks like it was a best case scenario. Decent-sized crowd but not too big, calm vibe, most people just there to hang out and watch, a lot of ridiculous costumes, some people running around naked and a minimal number of drunk and disorderlies. I think we've proven to the aliens that we know how to party. Perhaps this was the test and now they'll reveal themselves and invite us to join The Federation of Planets.

    Posted 4 weeks ago #
  15. JohnWThiel
    Member

    It was no disappointment.

    Posted 4 weeks ago #
  16. Marian
    Member

    This is a good summary https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/area-51-alienstock.html
    I agree with Ron that this could have been a great comedic SF. I can picture it in Astounding as it's the sort of humor Campbell loved.

    Right from the start, I saw this as unique because this was a totally spontaneous event. The kid who started it all still seems stunned by how it spun out of control. He thought he'd get a few dozen humorous responses, good for a meme full of jokes and suddenly he had over 2 million. Obviously, he hit a nerve even if only about 3000 actually showed. It's worth looking at what made it so appealing so suddenly.

    Posted 4 weeks ago #
  17. JohnWThiel
    Member

    One part of the article says "have gotten used to the conspiracy theorists and U.F.O. chasers who make the two-hour drive from Las Vegas." They all travel at the same speed?

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  18. Marian
    Member

    Final summary https://time.com/5681197/area-51-raid-aftermath/

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  19. CarlGlover
    Member

    The nerve he hit was an unfulfilled spiritual need among people who disdain organized religion and are looking to fulfill that need by communing with gods from the stars. The entire UFO movement has always been religious in nature. The sudden opportunity to make a once-in-a-lifetime pilgrimage en masse to the modern-day UFO Mecca was too good to ignore, even if the trip ultimately became too daunting for most due to practical considerations. But, make no mistake, they would have gone in their tens of thousands had pragmatism not stood in the way. Faith can't always move mountains, but it can always give it a good try.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  20. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Let's get some X-Files on this one. It's a shame to watch it sink out of sight and be forgotten.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  21. Marian
    Member

    I don't think it will be forgotten. There are already plans for another Alien Fest next year now that they know they don't have to worry about tens of thousands showing up. And there's also a lawsuit or two brewing.

    Carl, your point is good though I felt part of the appeal was the anti-government vibe.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  22. JohnWThiel
    Member

    Anything that makes the news won't be forgotten; I suppose the news people are still wondering about it. I was talking about here, where it eventually disappears from observation. My notion is that although it seemed to be a grand hoax, Area 51 remains a top secret military site, and the security there was well described by the news. So if not aliens, what is it they're not letting people find out about? Some say they're developing airplanes there, which isn't very exciting, but maybe it isn't so top secret either. People get in to view space launchings. That remains a matter of interest; I don't think they're going to shake that interest. Also I wonder, what's in the other fifty areas? Are they closely guarded too?

    Posted 2 weeks ago #

RSS feed for this topic

Reply

You must log in to post.